A shaped circular dish and an ink bottle with a stand (3)

The shaped circular dish decorated with a wide floral and foliate band in the 17th century taste, apparently unmarked, diameter 21cm, weight 200 gms, also a shaped circular ink bottle stand, with engraved decoration, London 1871, diameter 15.5cm, weight 104 gms, with a faceted glass ink bottle, the hinged top unmarked